Starting Problems

[shorts]

hi right first off my car: 1995 ford galaxy glx 2 litre petrol

 

the problem: starting

 

what happens is in the morning or afternoon whenever i go to start the car after its been standing for a while i have real problems starting it, when i turn the key the door led comes on normally and goes off after a couple off seconds as it should, but there is no humming from the fuel pump and if i try turning it over it turns but wont start, so basically i can sit there for ten mins sometimes turning the ignition on and off untill i hear the fuel pump, the the relay click and then it starts.

after the first start as descibed above i can the turn it on and off at will with no starting problems at all, until that is its stood over night and then it all starts again.

on the odd occation it will go first time after standing like the other day when i haddent used it for two days and it fired up first time :(

 

what ive done: so far from reading these great forums i have tried changing relay 147 (i think that was the number) and relay 30, however when changing relay 30 i didnt realise my wife had turned the ignition on before i put it in, could that have blown the new relay? and i have also had the battery tested at quick fit and that came up purrefect.

 

so now im stuck and dont have a clue what could be the problem apart from relay 30 if it might have blown or possibly the fule pump (which i realy dont want it to be as the cost a furtune)

 

please help!!!

[NikNak]

Now i'm no expert, but..... to me it sounds like an intermittent fault. And much as you dont want it to be... i suspect it just might be the fuel pump.

 

 

You say that once it starts, then no problem it will stop and start all day long. Only when it has rested, and cooled sufficiently will it revert to not starting again. i.e. the pump has 'started' so therefore is now nice and warm, so the bearings are also nice and warm and free to move.

 

I'm no expert, and dont even know where to locate the fuel pump....... but, i would bet my lunch money on it, if you locate the fuel pump and with the ignition turned on, give the pump a gentle tap with a 'Birmingham Screwdriver' you'll nudge it into life. A bit like when the starter motor wont turn, give it a bit of a thump with a lump of something and hey presto, off she goes........

 

 

Like i said..... I'm not in any way shape or form claiming to be trained by the A.A. , R.A.C. , GreenFlag, the S.A.S. , Woolworths, or even Mumof4 school of mechanics..! But, assuming that relay 30 (or any of the others...) are all working fine and dandy......... then the first thing i'd do is..... whack it (dont you thump the telly when that goes on the blink..?) :(

 

 

Good luck

 

 

 

Nick

[MadBaz]

soory ignore this

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ok so if that it and i need a new fuel pump does anyone know where i can get one cheap as i realy cant afford the

[seatkid]

Unlikely to be the fuel pump...sounds like the relay isn't pulling in when it doesnt start. Could be ignition switch fault. Time to get a voltmeter out......

 

I got an exchange fuel pump for my Golf from VW at

[shorts]

Unlikely to be the fuel pump...sounds like the relay isn't pulling in when it doesnt start. Could be ignition switch fault. Time to get a voltmeter out......

 

I got an exchange fuel pump for my Golf from VW at

[seatkid]

when you say ignition switch, what do you mean, is it anything to do with the ignition barrel as i cahnged it a short time ago?

Not the barrel, but the switch behind the barrel. It is a multipole switch, the pole supplying the feed to the fuel pump relay may dicky (check with a meter) - another possibilty is it may be the PATS (immobiliser) faulty - try a second key if you have one.

[shorts]

right well i am trying to get hold of a multi meter now, do you know what wires i should look at and what the voltages should be?

sorry for being a pain but im new to car electrics lol

[bj51edk]

Hi Guy's, I have a 1.9 diesel on 51 plate - i'm suffering same problem now for about 2 months or more.

It happened first thing today, #( Very Cold Manchester Morning..... :lol: )

Glow plug light off, Turn Key, Engine turns over - but chugs after about 6-7 secs, then it rumbles into life s - after giving it plenty of gas - this happens every other day, :lol: I have had the Glow plugs, air mass flowmeter, fuel filter changed but still it happens - anyone got any suggestions as to what it might be......hope its not the Fuel Pump (how can i check this ?)

 

Need help on this as i'm worried as it gets colder its going to take longer to start or not at all

 

:(

[Scorpiorefugee]

BJ51EDK- If it's down to about freezing, your glowplug light should be on for 3-5 seconds. If it isn't, chances are the coolant temperature sender is faulty. (Don't take any notice of your temperature gauge, that uses a different part of the same sender) Find it, disconnect it, and try again. Glow plug light should now come on for several seconds and it will start easily. Stock fault.

 

If it ain't that, I can't help.

 

Ron.

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can anyone advise me on which wire to check, i have have a look and there are 6 wires in total but i am unsure which ones to test and what the results should be. i have also tried whith another key and still the same

[Guest VR6!]

IIRC red wire feed, red/black out to starter via fuse and relay, voltage your looking for is 12V

[shorts]

great cheers for that, its dark now so i will have a test of that in the morning

[shorts]

right i have finnaly changed the iignition switch and its made not the stittest bit of differance :)

 

so does anyone have another suggestion of what else could be causeing this as its getting a reel pain in the backside now!!

 

someone please help!!

[shorts]

someone must have some idea what else it could be, come on now dont be shy i realy need some help here.

:blink:

[Andrew T]

Did you ever change the fuel pump relay ? Does your handbook list one ?

[shorts]

yep chnaged 30 and 147

[greg_68]

hi right first off my car: 1995 ford galaxy glx 2 litre petrol

 

the problem: starting

 

what happens is in the morning or afternoon whenever i go to start the car after its been standing for a while i have real problems starting it, when i turn the key the door led comes on normally and goes off after a couple off seconds as it should, but there is no humming from the fuel pump and if i try turning it over it turns but wont start, so basically i can sit there for ten mins sometimes turning the ignition on and off untill i hear the fuel pump, the the relay click and then it starts.

after the first start as descibed above i can the turn it on and off at will with no starting problems at all, until that is its stood over night and then it all starts again.

on the odd occation it will go first time after standing like the other day when i haddent used it for two days and it fired up first time :blink:

 

what ive done: so far from reading these great forums i have tried changing relay 147 (i think that was the number) and relay 30, however when changing relay 30 i didnt realise my wife had turned the ignition on before i put it in, could that have blown the new relay? and i have also had the battery tested at quick fit and that came up purrefect.

 

so now im stuck and dont have a clue what could be the problem apart from relay 30 if it might have blown or possibly the fule pump (which i realy dont want it to be as the cost a furtune)

 

please help!!!

 

 

This may sound a daft question but do you mean the engine or the key turns?

 

Is it an auto...me thinking auto selector inhibitor switch......well I was right last time.

[shorts]

This may sound a daft question but do you mean the engine or the key turns?

 

both

 

Is it an auto...me thinking auto selector inhibitor switch......well I was right last time.

 

nope manual

[sloper]

This may sound a daft question but do you mean the engine or the key turns?

 

both

 

Is it an auto...me thinking auto selector inhibitor switch......well I was right last time.

 

nope manual

[sloper]

This may sound a daft question but do you mean the engine or the key turns?

 

both

 

Is it an auto...me thinking auto selector inhibitor switch......well I was right last time.

 

nope manual

Just read your starting post, i cannot offer a solution but can offer sympathy, my 95 gal 2.0 has an identical problem, i have spent

[Andrew T]

Sloper, if you've tried everything else have a look at this it may be another line of investigation. Or a sign that it's time for the car to go........

[sloper]

someone must have some idea what else it could be, come on now dont be shy i realy need some help here.

:(

Hello there shorts,

my research on this matter refering to ford TIS disk , look in TSB- it calls up 101-1996 starting problems for pre-03-96 models.

It is suitably vague so as not to show any need for a recall back in 97.

Comply in full with requirement to change out both the pats and the antenna as they are matched at RF level. Costs about

[ed austin]

I know this was from a while ago, but I am having similar starting problems with my V6 R reg Galaxy. The problem is intermittent but getting worse. When it's hot, sometimes it just won't start no matter how long I crank the start motor for!

 

Can anyone tell me if the startup sequence given by sloper above applies to the V6? Should I be waiting for the fuel pump to turn off while the key is in position 2 as an indication that everything is OK with the PCM? Also my car won't start at all in failure condition. Does that mean the problem has nothing to do with the imobaliser? Does the imobaliser always allow the car to run for 3 secs?

 

thanks for your help

 

ed

[shorts]

right well i update for you,

 

i finaly took the plunge and took the car into ford to see if they could sort it out, well i got the car back and its not be sorted, they said it might be the pcm but cant garantee it, they advised me to take it to the stains branch where the might be able to pinpoint the problem better, they also flaming charged me over